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Down Payment Assistance Programs Come Out Of The Woodwork.... Realtors Beware!!

I recently wrote an article about HUD closing the loophole for the Down Payment Circumvention companies that operate under the guise as a 'charity'. HUD Ends Most Down Payment Assistance Programs.

These 'Faux Charities' helped many thousands of people get into a home when they didn't have the required down payment. Used mostly on the FHA loan programs, this circumvention of the down payment rules allowed many Americans to get into a loan program for which they did not qualify. And although I understand that this hurts those that CAN afford a house payment... but are short on cash.... let's face it: These people did not belong in the same loan pool as those people who COULD afford the down payment. And this is why I took my stance against the Faux Charities. Hey, I like to do loans to... but allowing undeserving people into the same loan pools as the deserving hurts all involved. And it is an undeniable fact that loans with DPA foreclose at an alarmingly higher rate than those loans with buyer money into the deal.

If you look towards the bottom of that post in the comment section you will see that a Spammer was promoting HIS Down Payment Circumvention' program with no regards to blogging etiquette. Purportedly 'legal'and RESPA compliant.... this program is on the Maverick Mortgage's "Prohibited Parties List". Yes, BOTH DPFunder and Buyers Account, LLC are BANNED from doing business with Maverick Mortgage.

Realtors take note: If it sounds too good to be true, it might just be.... er... or should I say that IT PROBABLY IS!!!

Although this spammer claims that his program is legal.... it may not be wise to rely on a spammer on the internet. Yet, rather, you should work closely with your Lending Partner to sort through all of the misinformation floating around the internet.

 

Tom Burris
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Comments

I always questioned the validity of those down payment assistance programs.  I did have some clients who used them but your term "faux charity" is a very good description of what went on.  Believe it or not, I had someone borrow through Down Payment Assistance $50,000 to get in a $500,000 house.  It cost him about $5000 to borrow it for about 5 days!
Posted by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) over 2 years ago
Hi Tom...how do you feel about local goverment and city Bond programs then? Aren't they doing pretty much the same thing by loaning money to people who can't save? I don't see the difference between people who may be "short on cash" and people who don't have the ability to save...the "gift" programs do pretty much the same thing...give money to people who can't save their own, right?
Posted by Lania DeMers, Broker Rocky Mountain Realty Co. (Rocky Mountain Realty Co.) over 2 years ago

Hi Barbara: These loans were dragging down the whole loan pool.

Hello Lania: Gov't bond programs are great. Although difficult to work with, it actually gives the buyer some equity and does not inflate property values. Most people going into deals with DPA were going to be upsid down if they sold in the short term. I see your point about why does it matter where the gift comes from.... and I admit that I haven't studied the numbers on foreclosure data differentiating 'Faux Charity' dpa and Govt DPA.

Lots of emotions on both sides. I try to look at it from the standpoint of this: "What is good for our industry?"

 

 

Posted by Tom Burris | Texas Mortgage Dallas Mortgage FHA (DallasLoanGuy.com) over 2 years ago

Tom, thanks for your stance!  I watched the banter back and forth on that. 

You are right in life if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.  I have people find this great piece of land on the internet and  I look it up and almost ALWAYS the entire thing is in the flood plain.   

Posted by Marchel Peterson Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro (Results Realty) over 2 years ago

Thanks Marchel:

This latest deal may very well be on the up & up(for now)..... but I expect HUD and Fannie to squash it.

My main point is this: Tread cautiously.... I network nationwide with lenders and noone knows of one of these actually closing.

Posted by Tom Burris | Texas Mortgage Dallas Mortgage FHA (DallasLoanGuy.com) over 2 years ago

Oh, and the fees are pretty high.... below is from one of their sites

Sample Transaction
 

Joe Buyer wants to buy a $200k house.  Joe can sign up with us to be a dealer.  Joe then asks the seller to enroll her property in the Owners Alliance.

Ms. Seller agrees and signs the Membership Agreement form.  Ms. Seller has agreed that she will pay $12,000.00 plus $300 processing fee, which will be collected at settlement.  Her benefits to the association begin immediately.

A commission of $10,000.00 is paid to Joe Buyer, our dealer.   Lenders may request a Verification of Deposit (VOD) from the bank showing the funds in Joe Smith's account.

The buyer has simply earned the income required for their down payment.

Posted by Tom Burris | Texas Mortgage Dallas Mortgage FHA (DallasLoanGuy.com) over 2 years ago

Hey Tom:

Thanks for posting comments on my blog. Have a great week.

Posted by Alan & Michele Kirkpatrick Austin Texas Real Estate (Austin Texas Homes) over 2 years ago

Tom,

 Both of these "charities" are also banned at Supreme Lending...the owner of our company sent down a directive almost a year ago specifically towards DPfunder and any DPA similar to them...

I agree with you 100% on the faux DPA's...

I really enjoy working with the city and state bond programs although some of them have a very restricted lender and broker pool...

I've been working with a charity program for active duty military members that is similar to the bond programs that pays some of their closing costs...

Do you keep getting emails from the faux charities asking you to email your senators? I get them and respond that I feel that is in all of our best interest to not accept them.

I could go on but you understand what I mean...

JP

Posted by John Parker - Texas Veteran Loan Officer over 2 years ago
Tom, Thanks for the information.  It is  very helpful.
Posted by Ricki Eichler,Broker,GRI,ePRO your Texas Hill Country connection (Ricki Eichler Real Estate LLC) over 2 years ago

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0624.pd

 

There was some discussion about the relative foreclosure experience of loans with faux charity "gifts" versus gifts from governments, etc. where there is real equity involved.  The GAO report above shows that real gifts have higher rates of foreclosure than comparable mortgages without gifts, but that loans with "gifts" from the faux charities have by far the highest rates of foreclosure. 

Posted by Anonymous over 2 years ago

You can 'spin' the numbers both ways......

Regardless.... the 'faux charities' have been BANNED by some lenders.... and I haven't seen any list of approved lenders for the scammer/spammer dpafunder type scams. Pffft...

Nice anonymous post!!

 

Posted by Tom Burris | Texas Mortgage Dallas Mortgage FHA (DallasLoanGuy.com) over 2 years ago
Good information to know.  Thank you for sharing. I am bookmarking.
Posted by Rosemary Brooks -Mother & Daughter (866)-543-0461 (EMBARCADERO INVESTMENTS - 866-543-0461) over 2 years ago

Thank You Rosemary!!

 

Posted by Tom Burris | Texas Mortgage Dallas Mortgage FHA (DallasLoanGuy.com) over 2 years ago

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